Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Comments on the photo of the 1981 Protests

From La Gente Unida:

THE PHOTO of the 1981 PROTESTS (see original post here) prompted comments from several people. Circulated by La Gente Unida in early April 2012, the 1981 photo was taken at the protests against racist and sexist policies of three gay bars in Denver. Listed below is the feedback on the historical photo.

Thank you for sharing this photo. Really a wonderful treat for us young pups. Wink.
-- Lisa Flores, activist since the early 1990s
 
Big, big thank you for sharing this with me. Incredible story and rich history.
-- Brad Clark Executive Director of One Colorado, GLBT lobby/advocacy group
 
Thank you very much for sharing another piece of LGBT Denver history – very educational and informative. I have saved your email in my historical archive folder as we want to build a historical/archive room in the future that will chronicle our history.  Thanks for the contribution.
-- Carlos Martinez, CEO of the GLBT Community Center in Denver
 
I remember the incident very well, but I don't actually remember photographing it or showing up at the protest in person. I checked with Pat Gourley to see if he remembered, and he also doesn't think I was the photographer. Of course, memory is not what it used to be. Pat thought it might have been taken by someone from The Center, which had a newspaper at the time, or by someone from Big Mama Rag.
-- Phil Nash, longtime activist since the 1970s
 
This was before my time. However, I do remember seeing protesters outside of The Broadway, but I did not know at the time that it was a gay bar. I was not out and about in the club scene until around the mid 1980s. I first met Miguel when he was involved with Ambiente Latino, and I actually DJ'd a Cinco de Mayo event for the group at an African-American gay bar called The Raven.
-- Lorenzo Ramirez, longtime Chicano gay activist since the mid 1980s
 
Sexist bar! Racist bar! Where's Billy? I remember Betty! And Pat Gourley--what's he up to these days?
 -- Tea Schook, longtime activist since the 1970s
[Her reference to “Sexist bar, Racist bar” was one of the chants during the 1981 protests of which Tea was a participant.]
 
Thanks for the photo and the wonderful text. Now I need to figure out how to make a file of this so I can refer to it in the future.
-- Jerry Gerash, longtime activist since the 1960s

Wow! That photo sure was a blast from the past in the late 1970s and early 1980s when I used to go to all three bars listed in the caption for the photo. I never knew there was any problem until I saw protesters outside the bars. Of course, I am a white gay guy and that guaranteed my hassle-free entry into the bars. Many of us bar queens inside the bars were just interested in partying and picking up a hot man to take home. Many of us never joined the protests because we thought they were too militant and should have used diplomacy to work things out with the bar owners instead of clobbering them over the head with picket lines and calls for a boycott.
-- Jack Nance, formerly of Denver now living in Kansas

[Note from La Gente Unida: African American gay activist Ed Mayo and other activists did try in-person negotiations with the bar owners, but protesters of all races resorted to picketing when diplomacy failed. See Phil Wade's letter herein about the meeting he and Carol Lease had with one of the bar owners.]

I am a lesbian who was treated badly in all three bars that were picketed 31 years ago in 1981. A few months before the protests, a Chicana lesbian friend and I went to the 1942 bar with two white gay men friends. The bar wouldn't serve us, and the bouncer escorted the Chicana and me out the door. The two gay men with us were also escorted out for bringing women in the bar. I stopped going to those bars because they hassled women and Black men for three pieces of identification while white men walked in unchallenged. The bars had a dress code that required women to wear dresses and men to wear pants. Open-toe shoes (like sandals) were not allowed. One bar insisted on a $5.00 cover charge (a lot of money back then) from women to discourage us from going there. Although I could not take part in the protests because of fear of losing the professional job I had back then, I was thrilled when the protests started outside those bars. Thank you for illuminating that chapter in Denver GLBT history.
-- Bobbi Mattinson (Longmont, CO)

Thanks for the photo. At some point, I brought up the discrimination to the Center and was told that we couldn't do anything because the 1942 was a donor to the Center. I returned my membership card to the Center at that time. Later, when I was on the Board of the Center, I raised the issue and was chastised by Paul Hunter himself, that we could not antagonize LGBT businesses. At some point, Carol Lease and I interviewed the owner of the 1942. There was a third person with us, but I don't remember who. Nieser [bar owner] told us that a few African Americans were allowed into the club, but not only don't they tip well, too many of "them" (African Americans or Latinos) discourage white clientele from coming to the bar. Further, regarding women, he told us that he witnessed a straight couple kissing and it turned his stomach. He had a hard time explaining why lesbians were discriminated against. I don't remember the year of the interview and whether or not we were doing it in conjunction with YOU (Your Own Understanding). Ed Mayo, who is deceased, was responsible for much of the energy behind the protests. Thanks for sending this to me.
-- Phil Krasnowski Wade, longtime activist since the 1970s
 
I see you are back in the news on the MileHighGayGuy website. Old militants never die. They just get sweeter with age!
-- Gale Whittington, gay liberation pioneer in the 1960s
[He is the author of the 2010 book Beyond Normal: Birth of Gay Pride.]